EPISODE 65 - JACK

PIP

This episode is dedicated to Cliff Huizenga who has been an Amelia patron for almost two and a half years, and has even snuck onto the show occasionally. In episode 56 for example, the INTERVIEWER’s utterance “Well crack my skull and call me an omelette” was submitted by Cliff as part of a Patreon competition. And if you listened to the Amelia Audio Advent Calendar, you will have heard Cliff’s very funny cameo as helicopter pilot Bud. Thanks for all your support Cliff!

And now, on with the show.

PROLOGUE - THE CEMETERY IN MONTMARTRE

ALVINA

We must be coming up on Victorian times soon! I've always loved that period. Charles Dickens; Tale of Two Cities, A Christmas Carol, Nicholas Nickleby... I've read them all, many times even!

INTERVIEWER

Nicholas Nickleby really wasn't as nice a chap as Dickens made him out to be. And Ebenezer Scrooge had an acerbic wit! Quite the jokester, used to have the crowd in stitches wherever he went! But that didn't fit Charles' story that well, so...

ALVINA

You're suggesting these were real people? Are you sure you're not confusing fiction and real life again?

(PAUSE)

INTERVIEWER

(SIGH) I guess I might be...

ALVINA

Don't worry. Just tell the stories, and we'll try to separate fiction from fact as we go along.

INTERVIEWER

(CHUCKLES) Right. Oh, I can tell you about one case though that I'm confident did actually happen!

ALVINA

Who's the client? Oooh! Please Say it's Queen Victoria! That would be so exciting!

INTERVIEWER

No, no... No-one so fancy, I'm afraid. No, this was a common London cabbie. Although - at the end of the day, there was nothing common about him at all...

THEME TUNE

INTRO

The Amelia Project by Philip Thorne and Oystein Ulsberg Brager, with music and sound direction by Fredrik Baden and sound design by Alexander Danner. Episode 65 - JACK. 1888

LONDON, 1888

A sitting room on the second floor. Outside the window, on the street below, we can hear the hustle and bustle of a busy Victorian street.

Footsteps coming up the stairs. A knock on the door.

INTERVIEWER

Come in!

(A DOOR OPENS)

Congratulations! Welcome to the - Have we met?

JACK

I don't think so.

INTERVIEWER

Hm. You look familiar. Anyhow, you found us!

JACK

It certainly seems like I did.

INTERVIEWER

No, I mustn't forget! The code word?

JACK

"I come seeking Janus."

INTERVIEWER

(HAPPILY) Hahahah! It always sounds like something else... But yes, the two faced god, the god of transitions, good good good. Welcome to The Brotherhood of the Phoenix! This meeting isn’t happening.

JACK

Better that way, for sure.

INTERVIEWER

If you’re not serious about this, you may leave...

JACK

Oh, I’m very serious indeed - This is in fact the most serious I've ever been in my life.

INTERVIEWER

If you take one more step into this room there’s no way back!

(PAUSE)

(JACK TAKES ONE STEP FORWARD)

Good choice! A new life awaits.

JACK

Thank Jove! You see, I have done something really, extraordinarily dreadful -

INTERVIEWER

We'll get to all that. Please, have a seat. Your name?

(JACK SITS DOWN. THE INTERVIEWER CLOSES THE DOOR AND ALSO SITS)

JACK

Carl. Carl Granton. Thanks for seeing me.

INTERVIEWER

You’re welcome, Mr. Granton.

JACK

Call me Carl.

INTERVIEWER

How was your journey?

JACK

Fine, although I don't see why I had to travel across London dressed as an old lady.

INTERVIEWER

Well, secrecy is of the utmost importance.

JACK

Of course, I’m just not that used to wearing skirts. I had a hard time not stumbling. Had to pretend I was arfarfan'arf at ten in the morning.

INTERVIEWER

Smart move.

JACK

Thank you for inviting me into your home.

INTERVIEWER

Oh, I don’t live here! No, no, no. This is just my office!

JACK

Then why can I see dirty plates and cutlery?

(HE TRIES TO SNEAKILY PUT IT AWAY BUT DOES NOT SUCCEED. HE TRIES TO CLEAN UP IN THE FOLLOWING CHAT BUT GIVES UP)

INTERVIEWER

I work late. I get hungry.

JACK

There is also loungewear in a heap on the floor?

INTERVIEWER

Yes... I... often sleep at work.

JACK

You have the sheet music to “Home! Sweet home!” by John Howard Payne and Sir Henry Bishop lying on your table.

INTERVIEWER

Hm! Singing helps me think!

JACK

About home?

INTERVIEWER

Would you like a cup of tea?

JACK

Call me crazy, but I've never cared that much for tea.

INTERVIEWER

You don't care for tea? Are you not an Englishman?

JACK

Bitter just isn't my taste. I've been known to frequent the chocolate houses when I'm thirsty.

INTERVIEWER

Chocolate? So - you're willing to pay through your nose, first simply to be let in, and then again for a sip of what looks like mud and smells like a flatulent dog?

JACK

I believe hot chocolate is a divine drink, fit for the gods, in taste and smell.

INTERVIEWER

(CHUCKLES) Not my gods, that's for sure.

JACK

Besides, on the point of finances, I do tend to enter with shillings and leave with sovereigns!

INTERVIEWER

How?

JACK

Gambling! There's always a game going on at White's.

(SHUFFLES CARDS)

INTERVIEWER

Most people who go to White's leave with less money than they entered with. That's normally how gambling works.

JACK

Every game has to have a winner.

INTERVIEWER

And that winner is you?

JACK

I don't mean to boast about my merits, but I have yet to enter a game of cards I cannot win.

INTERVIEWER

You have an ambitious belief in your own luck.

(MORE CARD SHUFFLING)

JACK

Luck has nothing to do with it. Take my last game as an example. Just over a month ago, I played against a man at White's. He and I got through thirteen rounds of Draw Poker, and I won every single one. Poor fellow, I emptied his pockets that night, and more. He had to borrow money to pay me, poor sod!

INTERVIEWER

Blimey! What's your secret? Or perhaps you'd rather not tell me?

JACK

I might as well, you couldn't repeat it anyway.

INTERVIEWER

No?

JACK

No.

(KNOCKS THE CARDS ON THE TABLE)

I could read his face. He had the tiniest twitch at the mouth when he had good cards, but twitched the other side of his mouth when his cards were bad.

INTERVIEWER

Interesting. I won't suggest we play then, I'm sure you could see right through me! I whistle 'Away, Away! My Heart's On Fire' when I'm doing well and Brahms' 'Tragic Overture' when I'm doing badly.

JACK

So, if you are not a chocolate drinker, I don't suppose any will be on the menu?

INTERVIEWER

I have never tried a hot chocolate, and I swear to Jove I never will! Chocolate drinkers with their brown, stained hands... Yuck!

JACK

It doesn't have to spill.

INTERVIEWER

I'll stick to Veuve Clicquot, thank you very much.

JACK

So it isn't the price you object to, you just want to be half-rats!

INTERVIEWER

I will pay good money for anything that sparkles in the glass, and then continues to sparkle in my head.

JACK

So... champagne?

INTERVIEWER

Only if I decide to help you.

JACK

I'll wait patiently.

BEAT.

Though with what happened to you in Afghanistan, I don’t understand how you can afford such an expensive habit?

INTERVIEWER

Sorry?

JACK

My apologies, I didn't mean to pry.

INTERVIEWER

How on earth did you know about Afghanistan?

JACK

Never mind that. We're here to talk about my misfortune, not yours.

INTERVIEWER

Hm. Yes... Rather.

JACK

(A LITTLE AMUSED) But when we get to the champagne, do let me know if you need help pouring! Sorry, go ahead.

INTERVIEWER

Eh... So, what is it you have done that’s so dreadful?

JACK

(SHAKY)I seem to have murdered five people.

INTERVIEWER

What? Why?

JACK

I didn’t mean to.

INTERVIEWER

Stuff me like a sausage! How do you murder someone without meaning to?

JACK

Honestly, I don’t know.

INTERVIEWER

You don’t know?

JACK

No. At the time, I was asleep.

INTERVIEWER

Uhm... Please explain.

JACK

It was the first of September and I woke up feeling rather all right. The sun was shining through my window and the birds were singing. It felt like it was going to be such a wonderful day. I blink and I rub my eyes and then I notice something on my hands - these dark spots all over my skin -

INTERVIEWER

Chocolate stains, was it?

JACK

No. I realize my hands are covered in blood.

(A CHURCH BELL RINGS IN THE DISTANCE)

INTERVIEWER

Were you hurt?

JACK

Not a scratch. The blood couldn't have been mine.

INTERVIEWER

It might have been a nose bleed.

JACK

There was no blood under my nose. I hurried into the bath and washed my hands. Then I tried to remember what I’d done the night before.

INTERVIEWER

Had you been smothering a parrot? I've heard too much Absinthe can cause blackouts.

JACK

I don't drink Absinthe. And I hadn’t been in a fight or anything like that. I’d been at home and playing the violin.

INTERVIEWER

You play the violin!?

JACK

Surely that is not the most shocking element of my tale.

INTERVIEWER

Sorry, please continue.

JACK

I had a glass of milk, then I went to bed.

INTERVIEWER

How curious. It could have been a prank? Someone pouring pig's blood on your hands to give you a scare?

JACK (INTERRUPTING)

I considered that, but I can't imagine anyone who would want to pull such a nasty trick on me. I don’t really have that many friends.

INTERVIEWER

Enemies then?

JACK

I have none of those either. I pay my rent on time, I keep to myself...

INTERVIEWER

Unhappy customers? What's your profession?

JACK

Nowadays I work as a cabbie.

INTERVIEWER

You sound a bit posh for a cabbie?

JACK

There's upbringing, and then there's circumstances. What can I say... Life led me here. And I don't mind. I get to ride around London, I’ve got my own hansom and an old horse.

INTERVIEWER

And only happy customers? I've been angry at many a cabbie. They always seem to take the longest possible route just to up the fare!

JACK

(SLIGHTLY OFFENDED) I know every street in London, and I take pride in knowing the fastest way to get from any point of departure to any point of arrival.

INTERVIEWER

What about the man you beat in Draw Poker? I'm sure he would have been quite annoyed with you?

JACK

Enough to sneak into my house and pour pig's blood on my hands?

INTERVIEWER

Well you know- (SOBERS) I suppose it is a rather extreme form of vengeance.

JACK

Besides, if he wanted his money back, robbing me would have made more sense.

INTERVIEWER

So, is that it? You woke up once with bloody hands and can't remember what happened, and for some reason you've drawn the conclusion you've killed a number of people?

JACK

Five. That wasn't the end of it.

INTERVIEWER

Wha- What happened?

JACK

I proceeded to go about my business as usual. But my first customer was this church-bell who wouldn't stop talking. She went on and on about this awful news she'd read about in the paper. (IMITATING THE HYSTERIC WOMAN) 'There’s been a murder!' she said. 'A truly 'orrible one! A harlot's been found mutilated down Buck’s Row!'

INTERVIEWER

Buck’s Row?

JACK

You probably heard about it.

INTERVIEWER

Yes... Go on.

JACK

I try to think nothing of it. I attempt to convince myself the incident that morning didn't happen, that it was only a bad dream. But then a week later, the same thing happens again!

INTERVIEWER

Exactly the same?

JACK

I wake up and all my clothes are soaked with blood. My old deerstalker is lying next to my bed, though I can’t remember putting it there, and the hat’s got blood on it too.

INTERVIEWER

If my memory serves, this incident must have corresponded with the second Whitechapel murder?

JACK

It did. Then comes the 1st of October. Another two women are murdered! Prostitutes, like the first two. Imagine! Two in one night! And again I wake up fully dressed, covered in blood.

INTERVIEWER

And you can’t remember anything from these nights?

JACK

I cannot.

INTERVIEWER

Hm... But you said five. That’s only four.

JACK

Have you read the papers today?

INTERVIEWER

It happened again?

JACK

I only just managed to scrub off the blood before I had to leave to get here on time. Now, this one is even more gruesome than the rest they say.

INTERVIEWER

But then- Why come to us now, and not before?

JACK

I only found out about you a few days ago. Plus, the Peelers have just started asking questions around my neighborhood. I'm expecting the knock on my door any day now, and then I'll be grinning at the daisy roots before you know it.

INTERVIEWER

But the police would have no proof tying you to the murders?

JACK

I was asleep when I did it, I could have left behind any number of clues! It’s only a matter of time before the Peelers find something that points in my direction!

INTERVIEWER

Now, first of all, we don’t know if it was you who did it.

JACK

Then where did the blood come from?

INTERVIEWER

Somebody might be trying to frame you.

JACK

Every one of these mornings, there has been mud on the wheels of my hansom! And I clean my hansom every night when I come home.

INTERVIEWER

But... The mud could be from anywhere.

JACK

It could be, but it wasn’t. It was from Whitechapel.

INTERVIEWER

How do you know?

JACK

I know the color and smell of every type of mud in London.

INTERVIEWER

That’s... (CONFUSED) impressive. Maybe somebody borrowed your hansom whilst you were asleep?

(GRASPING AT STRAWS NOW)

JACK

My horse won’t listen to anyone but me. And before you suggest they had their own horse - her hooves were covered in exactly the same mud as the wheels.

INTERVIEWER

Are you sure it was blood though? It could have been some sort of... paint?

JACK

I know it was blood.

INTERVIEWER

How?

JACK

I tested it.

INTERVIEWER

You tested it?

JACK

You might not believe this, but in my spare time I dabble in chemistry.

INTERVIEWER

(SCOFFS) Chemistry?

JACK

I wasn't always a cabbie. I apprenticed at an apothecary. But I fell out with the chemist. He was a quack, and I told him so - upon which he threw me out and made sure everyone knew I wasn't fit for the trade. I couldn't get another apprenticeship if I begged for it.

INTERVIEWER

But you haven't given up on your dream of working at an apothecary?

JACK

It's not the apothecary work I'm interested in, it's the science!

(proud and excited) I have found a re-agent which is precipitated by hemoglobin, and by nothing else!

INTERVIEWER

Come again?

JACK

I have discovered a re-agent which is precipitated -

INTERVIEWER

I heard you the first time. I'm not going to get it even if you repeat it a hundred times.

JACK

Suffice to say, I can prove if something is blood or not.

INTERVIEWER

I see. Well, it might still not have been you. There’s no murder weapon!

(THE STRAWS ARE GETTING THINNER)

JACK

I found my old surgical knife under the bed. Covered in blood.

INTERVIEWER

Fine! I give up! You’re JACK the Ripper!

JACK

I’m sorry.

Now you know why I'm here. I need a new identity. I don’t want to be a murderer!

INTERVIEWER

Yes but... How is a new identity going to help?

JACK

Don't you craft new lives?

INTERVIEWER

We do, but I can only work with what I've got. And in your case, I can't see how giving you a new name and a new profession will stop you from brutally murdering prostitutes!

JACK

But -

INTERVIEWER (CON'T)

Say we make you a pastor in Skegness or a postman in Trowbridge, chances are you'll wake up again, caked in blood reading about gruesome murders in the local paper!

JACK

So... you can't help me? For I can't live with this, you know! I don't know what else to do. If I am going to keep killing, then... I better just off myself! The sooner I am gone, the better! If I give myself up to the Peelers, they'll have me dance upon nothing by the end of the month, I'm sure.

INTERVIEWER (INTERRUPTING)

Now, now, no need to go to such extremes! Let us first try to figure out what's really going on. If we can solve that mystery, then perhaps we can do something about it!

JACK

You think that is possible?

INTERVIEWER

(LAUGHS) For the Brotherhood of the Phoenix nothing is impossible! The game is afoot!

JACK

Fine, then how do we go about it?

INTERVIEWER

I have a theory. We seem to be faced with some kind of sleepwalking.

JACK

Yes, that seems the most likely option.

INTERVIEWER

The question is what’s causing it. Do you bear any resentment to women at all? Prostitutes?

JACK

None at all.

INTERVIEWER

How’s your relationship with your mother?

JACK

She’s passed away, poor thing. She was a lovely woman.

INTERVIEWER

Hm. So you’re not living out a revenge fantasy, and it’s not a subconscious Oedipal Complex.

JACK

Oedipal Complex? As in Oedipus, King of Thebes?

INTERVIEWER

Yes. It's just a theory my friend Sigmund is working on. No, I think I need to know more about you... What do you do when you are not riding a cab or gambling in a chocolate house?

JACK

Apart from the chocolate houses, I don't really attend the social circle.

INTERVIEWER

Oh? Why not?

JACK

People don't like that I know so much about them.

INTERVIEWER

What do you mean?

JACK

I'll show you...

(CHAIR CREAKS AS HE LEANS FORWARD)

I'm sorry about your loss. Were the two Italians close friends of yours? And how is the business going without your strongmen at hand?

INTERVIEWER

(SAD AND SURPRISED) Giovanni and Santo!

JACK

I’m sorry if I upset you, I just needed to prove my point. When people learn that I can do that... they'd rather not have me around.

INTERVIEWER

(QUIET AND BAFFLED) But how did you know about Giovanni and Santo...?

JACK

The same way I knew that you'd been to Afghanistan. I looked at you.

INTERVIEWER

Ride me like a pony! What did you see?

JACK

I’ll have to think about it to explain that... Observation with me is second nature, you see. From long habit, the train of thoughts ran so swiftly through my mind, that I arrived at the conclusion without being conscious of any steps in between.

INTERVIEWER

Really?

JACK

There were steps like that, though. The train of reasoning ran, ‘Here is a gentleman who has just come from the tropics, for his face is dark, and that is not the natural tint of his skin, for his wrists are fair.

His left arm has been injured. He holds it in a stiff and unnatural manner. Where in the tropics could an Englishman have seen much hardship and got his arm wounded? Clearly in Afghanistan. He is not a military man, though, for he doesn’t stand like one. So why was he in Afghanistan?

INTERVIEWER

Why was I?

JACK

To help a General disappear.

INTERVIEWER

You even know it’s a General!?

JACK

That is a guess, really, it could have been a diplomat of some sort, but that would not have brought you so close to the front lines. It was not a lower ranking officer, for they could not have afforded your services. Hence it was most likely a General.

INTERVIEWER

Blimey! And my two colleagues?

JACK

From your build and thin fingers, it is easy to see that you are not the fighting type. I can imagine making people disappear is a tough business where you can get into all sorts of trouble. Plus, there will be the odd corpse to carry around, to replace the person who is about to live on. Best to employ some henchmen. There are three coat hangers in the hallway, but only one with a coat on it, yet marks on the floor from two sets of heavy boots, not yours. The boots were of an Italian make, only really popular with Italians and only available on the continent. You clearly lost two men in a recent disappearance that went wrong. I’m sorry for your loss.

INTERVIEWER

Yes... Thank you... That was very impressive!

JACK

Oh, I don’t know about that. Some people are good at falconry or racket ball. I am good at this.

INTERVIEWER

Anyone can improve their skills at racket ball with enough practice. But no normal person would be able to do what you just did.

JACK

I guess I’ve never been quite normal.

INTERVIEWER

I can see why people don't like being around you. It must get lonely?

JACK

It's fine by me. I prefer my own company, my own studies.

INTERVIEWER

So you just stay at your lodgings?

JACK

I like to go to the theater. I enjoy being entertained.

INTERVIEWER

What do you like to see? Operas, maybe?

(SINGS) "Home! Sweet home!":

Mid pleasures and palaces though we may roam

JACK

(TRYING TO INTERRUPT) I- I mean-

INTERVIEWER (KEEPS SINGING. CARL SIGHS)

Be it ever so humble, there's no place like home

A charm-

JACK (MANAGES TO DISRUPT)

I will attend the opera, yes. And I adore a good violin recital. But I must admit I have a particular interest in conjurers and magicians.

INTERVIEWER

(PIQUED) Magicians you say?

JACK

I like figuring out how their tricks are done.

INTERVIEWER

Using yours skills of deduction?

JACK

Yes.

INTERVIEWER

I see.

BEAT.

Oh dear... Oh no- Did you by any chance go to see any hypnotists lately?

JACK

As a matter of fact, I did.

(INTERVIEWER SIGHS)

Three weeks ago or so I went to The Egyptian Hall at Piccadilly to see a hypnotist named The Magnificent Eugene Bekhterev.

INTERVIEWER

(WITH DREAD) Hmhmhm... And he brought you on stage.

JACK

How did you know? Do you also have powers of deduction?

INTERVIEWER

I was there. I thought I'd seen you before. Tell me what happened.

JACK

If you were there, you saw what happened.

INTERVIEWER

Why did you volunteer to go on stage?

JACK

I was curious what he did to the people being hypnotized, what happened behind that screen.

INTERVIEWER

Yes, I remember the screen. What did happen?

JACK

I remember him whispering something in my ear, but for the life of me I cannot remember what. Then the next thing I know, I am standing in the middle of the stage and everyone is laughing at me. To this day I do not know what I did.

INTERVIEWER

(CHUCKLES) He had you cluck like a chicken.

JACK

He must be good. (INTERVIEWER HUMS) I have no idea how he did that. Normally, I can work it all out.

INTERVIEWER

I'm so sorry, Johnathan. There was no way we could know this would happen.

JACK

What... what are you talking about?

INTERVIEWER

There is no Eugene Bekhterev.

JACK

I'm sorry?

INTERVIEWER

About a month ago, a man approached us, desperate to escape. He had accrued large gambling debts; debts that would ruin many lives, not just his own. His creditors threatened to go after anyone he cared about to get their money. This man, he'd had problems with gambling before, it ended his first marriage, estranged him from his family, but for a few years he'd had his habit under control. Things were looking up, he had a lovely fiancé, a job. Then suddenly, he lost control again. And although I don't know for certain, I assume the moment he slipped back into his old habits and started the fateful, downwards spiral must have happened at a certain... chocolate house.

JACK

This is a joke, surely? Don’t sell me a dog!

INTERVIEWER

I am not. We took on his case. He seemed like such a lost soul - yet he had such a striking personality! Bright, intense eyes! And a most fascinating subject of interest for his pastime.

JACK

(WITH DREAD NOW TOO) Let me guess. Hypnotism?

INTERVIEWER

Hypnotism. He had never pursued it professionally, but in his new life he'd like to give it a go as a vocation.

JACK

So you set him up as The Magnificent Eugene Bekhterev.

INTERVIEWER

He named himself after the famous hypnotists Étienne Azam and Vladimir Bekhterev. I normally never disclose information about past clients, but under the circumstances...

JACK

So you are suggesting this gentleman hypnotized me into killing these women as revenge for leading him back to gambling? He got a whole new life out of it, one in which he got to pursue his dream, no less!

INTERVIEWER

Well I suppose the mind of a vengeful person doesn't work quite like yours or mine. But, there is also the matter of everything he lost. When we faked his death, he had to leave behind his new fiancé, whom he loved very dearly. I do remember he was very upset about that.

JACK

Why didn't he hypnotize me there and then, at White's?

INTERVIEWER

That was before everything went out of control.

JACK

I mean before the game, to win!

INTERVIEWER

Ah. Well, that was too noisy. Too many people watching. Yes, you see, in preparing for the stage show, I learned that he needs the most particular of circumstances to be able to hypnotize. Hence the screen.

JACK

I don't believe this.

INTERVIEWER

It is true!

JACK

I don't doubt that you had such a client, but Eugene Bekhterev is not the same person that I played Draw Poker with at White's just over a month ago!

INTERVIEWER

Oh? Why are you so certain?

JACK

I saw them both up close! I would have recognized him! My perception and memory is second to none, I have already proven this to you. I always remember a face!

INTERVIEWER

Oh, but you wouldn't remember this one.

JACK

Why not?

INTERVIEWER

My colleague. He is a surgeon. He is a master at changing faces.

JACK

A surgeon? No, I saw this man up close, there was no sign of any kind of operation.

INTERVIEWER

You… wouldn’t have seen any. We’re the best in the business.

(PAUSE.)

JACK

A master at changing faces?

INTERVIEWER

After he was done with our client, no one could have recognized him. The Magnificent Eugene Bekhterev appeared with a completely new visage.

JACK

I'll be damned.

BEAT.

So... what do we do? Can we find him, get him to reverse what he’s done to me?

INTERVIEWER

I’m afraid that’s impossible.

JACK

You said for the Brotherhood of the Phoenix nothing is impossible! I realize he’s probably miles away, perhaps even in another country. And even if we could find him, he wouldn’t voluntarily reverse what he’s done…

(SHUFFLES CARDS AGAIN)

INTERVIEWER

I don't think he would have, no.

JACK

...but we can threaten him!

INTERVIEWER

That won't work.

JACK

Why wouldn’t threatening him work? I’m not one for unnecessary violence, but if the situation calls for it -

INTERVIEWER

Well, I don't have any henchmen anymore -

JACK

I'm sorry about your loss, we can find new henchmen! Or actually, blast the henchmen, I'm a decent boxer, I'll punch him up myself! Challenge him to a fight!

INTERVIEWER

Threatening him won't work.

JACK

Why. Not.

INTERVIEWER

He's dead.

(CARDS FALL)

JACK

What?

INTERVIEWER

The show at the The Eygptian Hall went beyond all expectations. Sold out several nights in a row. Bekhterev made a fortune. But, though we had provided him with a new identity, we hadn't managed to remove the old one.

JACK

What do you mean?

INTERVIEWER

Once he got his share of the takings, he drank himself up the pole and proceeded to gamble away the whole lot. Lost more than he had earned, proceeded to shake a flannin' and... was knocked dead by some half-hour gentleman.

JACK

That might not be true! He could have faked his death again!

INTERVIEWER

Oh, no man fakes his death in this city without me knowing about it.

JACK

So I'm screwed then? I will have to go on forever killing poor night flowers, who have done nothing to me? You might as well hang me here and now!

INTERVIEWER

Now now, come on now. No. We need to get you to a hypnotherapist.

JACK

You think this can be reversed by someone else?

INTERVIEWER

Only by an exceptionally good hypnotherapist. Yes, we need the very best. Luckily, I may just happen to know the right person...

JACK

Who?

INTERVIEWER

I’ll write to my friend Sigmund right this minute. We'll see if he’s in London any time soon. Even if he hasn't planned a trip, I'm sure a case like yours will interest him enough to make him change his schedule.

JACK

What happens until he arrives? It could still take weeks and I might commit more murders!

INTERVIEWER

Hmmm… We'll lock you up.

JACK

Yes. I suppose that is the only way.

INTERVIEWER

Once all that is out of the way you can go straight back to your old life, as if nothing ever happened. I don’t think we need to bother with a new identity, do we?

JACK

Not bother...? The whole city of London is looking for the Whitechapel Murderer! Even if I stop killing now, five murders have already been committed!

INTERVIEWER

That’s true.

JACK

Then there's the question of salvation.

INTERVIEWER

Salvation?

JACK

I need to cleanse myself of these deeds! The guilt is killing me! But if I got a fresh start, a new life... If I could only redeem myself somehow... But there is no way to do that is there?

INTERVIEWER

Hm… I shall have to think... Tick tock, pick a lock, kiss a horse at tea time... Suck me like an egg! I think I’ve got it!

JACK

Yes?

INTERVIEWER

What if you could counteract your accidental evil deeds with conscious good ones?

JACK

What do you mean?

INTERVIEWER

What if you could do that to such a measure, that not only would you achieve balance, you would end up with a surplus of good deeds?

JACK

How do you see that happening? How do I counteract five gruesome murders!?

What kind of identity would that be, where I could exact that measure of good?

INTERVIEWER

What if you came back...

JACK

Yes?

INTERVIEWER

...as...

JACK

Yes?

INTERVIEWER

...a detective?!

JACK

A Peeler!?

INTERVIEWER

I had something rather different in mind. Something new.

JACK

What?

INTERVIEWER

A consulting detective.

JACK

What’s that?

INTERVIEWER

Well, it would be a person who aids the police or anyone who needs it in solving a particularly difficult crime. A person who would use their intelligence to see connections that are missed by others. It would be someone with an uncanny ability for deduction... Someone... like you!

JACK

A consulting detective?

INTERVIEWER

As a detective, I reckon you would be able to look at all the facts, and deduce the only trajectory that could possibly lead to that very outcome. You could use your background in chemistry to aid your investigation. And your knowledge of the mud in London for that matter!

JACK

I know a thing or two more than that, which might astound some people. My knowledge in certain areas is - I don’t like to toot my own horn, but - it’s encyclopedic.

INTERVIEWER

You might just start a revolution in forensic science!

JACK

And this will redeem me, you think?

INTERVIEWER

In your new profession you will be solving crimes and putting criminals behind bars! Through that work, you will be saving lives, many more lives than the ones you have unwillingly taken.

JACK

And this will make the Gods look down upon me less harshly when the day comes?

INTERVIEWER

I should think so.

JACK

Then I’m all dedicated to your plan!

INTERVIEWER

You like it!?

JACK

I think it's bang up to the elephant! It excites me! Greatly, even!

INTERVIEWER

Oh, goody!

JACK

So when can we begin my transformation? I suppose this face-surgeon of yours should do some work on me?

INTERVIEWER

Hold on. First we need to establish how you are going to pay.

JACK

I can’t.

INTERVIEWER

You can’t?

JACK

No. I haven’t got any money, I’m just a cabbie.

INTERVIEWER

Then why on earth did you come here!?

JACK

Out of desperation! Though once I came inside, I knew you’d take my case.

INTERVIEWER

How? Oh of course… deduction.

(CARL LIGHTS A PIPE)

JACK

You are living out of your office. You just lost half your team. You need my business - any business - to get back on your feet.

INTERVIEWER

You are too good... So what do you propose?

JACK

As a consulting detective I’ll need some sort of headquarters. How about... here?

INTERVIEWER

Here?

JACK

We can go halves on the rent. These digs aren’t too bad, and with your expensive champagne habit, you need someone to share the rent with.

INTERVIEWER

Well, I guess 221B Baker Street is a decent enough address for a consulting detective...

JACK

Besides, you could do with a front for The Brotherhood of the Phoenix. And what better front than being the trusty companion of a new master detective!

INTERVIEWER

Excuse me, are you proposing that I become your companion?

JACK

Only as a front, you see. And it might turn out to be quite fun...! You can help me with my cases, then I consult on your disappearances!

INTERVIEWER

Well, this is quite the surprise! First you come in here desperately begging for my help, now you're asking me to partner up!

JACK

Well, what do you say?

INTERVIEWER

I suppose some additional company would be nice. The disappearance business can get rather lonely.

JACK

Now please don't misunderstand, I don't mean to take the place of your friend. In fact I rather look forward to meeting him!

INTERVIEWER

Yes, I'm sure the two of you would have a lot to talk about. Medicine and science and whatnot.

JACK

Great! I think we have settled on something!

INTERVIEWER

Huh!

JACK

You don’t mind the smell of strong tobacco, I hope?

INTERVIEWER

I always smoke ‘ship’s’ myself.

JACK

That’s good enough. Let me see, what are my other shortcomings... I get in the dumps at times, and don’t open my mouth for days on end. You must not think I am sulky when I do that. Just let me alone, and I’ll soon be right. What have you to confess now?

INTERVIEWER

Confess?

JACK

It’s just as well for two fellows to know the worst of one another before they begin to live together.

(THE INTERVIEWER LAUGHS)

INTERVIEWER

Interesting idea, yes, hm… Let’s see... I keep a bull pup and a skunk, and I object to rows because my nerves are shaken -

JACK

Afghanistan.

INTERVIEWER

Afghanistan, Egypt, the Americas, all over Europe... My nerves have been shaken in so many places I struggle to keep track. I get up at all sorts of ungodly hours, and I am extremely lazy. I have another set of vices when I’m well, but those are the principal ones at present.

JACK

Do you include violin-playing in your category of rows?

INTERVIEWER

Well, it depends on the player. A well-played violin is a treat for the gods, a badly-played one —

JACK

Oh, that’s all right. So who are you? Jameson? Masterson? Richardson?

INTERVIEWER

What?

JACK

Watson! That’s much better! Sorry, you need a name, if you are to be my companion.

INTERVIEWER

Now hold on a minute, I'm the one who gives people new identities!

JACK

(SMILES) Right now it's me. People will be coming in and out of here all day, I’ll need to call you something!

Watson is simple, to the point. I like it. You shall be... John Watson! And I shall be...

INTERVIEWER

Sherlock!

JACK

That is an uncommon name. Are you naming me after -

INTERVIEWER

Alfred Sherlock, yes, the violinist.

JACK

Of course!

INTERVIEWER

And your surname will be Holmes, after Oliver Wendell Holmes, the physician.

JACK

(TRYING IT ON FOR SIZE)

Sherlock. Holmes. Sherlock Holmes! It fits me! Like a tailor made Jacket!

INTERVIEWER

We haven’t figured out how to kill you though?

JACK

A bout of Yellow Fever.

INTERVIEWER

Oh, that's good! The bleeding from the eyes and mouth looks terrifying, nobody would take a second look at your face. Which makes it very easy to find a replacement corpse. It only needs to match so-so.

JACK

Excellent! Nobody knew me that well anyway.

INTERVIEWER

I’ll organize for the corpse to appear at your lodgings tomorrow morning.

JACK

Now, we can’t rest on our laurels, we’ve got to change me into this Holmes character. I should probably start my studies as soon as possible. I think anatomy, perhaps? And criminology.

INTERVIEWER

My friend can teach you anatomy. But before we start all that, I would like to offer you a toast -

JACK

Finally! The champagne! I've been looking forward to this!

(UNDER THE FOLLOWING THE INTERVIEWER PRODUCES A BOTTLE OF CHAMPAGNE AND TWO GLASSES. HE POPS THE CORK AND POURS TWO GLASSES)

INTERVIEWER

With your extraordinary powers, I wouldn’t be surprised if you are going to be rather famous. Perhaps I should serve as your chronicler? If time permits. You know - My friend A.C. Doyle could proofread. He could even help us get the stories published.

JACK

That is a great idea! Extra income!

INTERVIEWER

Yes… Maybe I should ask him if he'd be willing to publish under his name...

JACK

Keeping you out of the limelight. Even better.

BEAT.

You know, I think you and I will get along just fine.

INTERVIEWER

I think so too. Now what should we toast to?

JACK

The way you’ve helped me out of this conundrum with such speed and elegance makes me think we should toast to... hard work maybe? Or to finding unlikely solutions?

INTERVIEWER

Ah, it was nothing. No, to me, the interview process is rather like your process of deduction, you see. It doesn't seem complicated, instead it all feels rather eh -

(LOOKING FOR THE RIGHT WORD)

JACK

...elementary?

INTERVIEWER

Yes! Indeed… Elementary!

JACK

Then we'll toast to that. Elementary, my dear Watson!

INTERVIEWER

Elementary! Detective Holmes…

THEME TUNE AND CREDITS

Stay tuned for the epilogue, but first the credits.

This episode was dedicated to Cliff Huizenga and featured Alan Burgon as The Interviewer, Jonathan Sims as Carl Granton and Julia C. Thorne as Alvina.

The episode was written by Oystein Ulsberg Brager with story and audio editing by Philip Thorne, sound design by Alexander Danner and music by Fredrik Baden. The episode was directed by Oystein Brager and Philip Thorne. Production assistance by Maty Parzival and graphic design by Anders Pedersen.

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And now the epilogue.

EPILOGUE

(FIELD IN SCOTLAND. COLE AND HAINES ARE HIDING IN THE BUSHES, EAVESDROPPING ON KOZLOWSKI, MIA AND JACKIE)

KOZLOWSKI

...elementary my dear Watson. Elementary detective Holmes.

(HE LAUGHS)

MIA

Wow.

JACKIE

Wow indeed.

(PAUSE)

COLE

(WHISPERS)

Jack the Ripper and Sherlock Holmes in the same story? If the Americans buy this, I've lost my faith in Uncle Sam forever!

HAINES

(WHISPERS)

Cole, come with me...

COLE

(WHISPERS)

What?

HAINES

(WHISPERS)

Just come!

(THEY CRAWL AWAY FROM THE FIRE. AFTER A SHORT WHILE, THEY STAND UP)

HAINES

Okay, I think we're out of earshot and out of view.

COLE

Why did we leave them?

HAINES

Do you remember Professor Smythe-Holmes? At the academy?

COLE

Of course. One of the best lecturers MI5 has ever seen.

HAINES

Hm. I served as prefect for a time, so I spent a lot to do with him. One night I had to call at his quarters rather late, to deliver some papers. He invited me in. Offered me wine. I sat down. We talked. He was... rather inebriated.

COLE

Why are you telling me this?

HAINES

He told me - and made me promise to never tell anyone - that his great grandfather was Sherlock Holmes!

COLE

What!?

HAINES

He was... lamenting how everyone was under the impression that the great Mr. Holmes had been a character in a story, and not a real man with a significant impact on the history of investigation!

COLE

He was drunk. He was having you on! Obviously!

HAINES

Was he? I thought so at the time, but... with what we've just heard...!

COLE

If Sherlock Holmes was real, why keep that secret?

HAINES

Professor Smythe-Holmes said that late in life his great grandfather had gone to extreme lengths to remove all traces that could prove who he actually was, that Sherlock Holmes had existed for real. He took a new identity as a retired weaver, or something. Apparently, there was some dark secret in his past that led him to this drastic measure... one that he didn't even tell his children about.

COLE

Well, if he really was Jack the Ripper, he wouldn’t want that to come out!

HAINES

Exactly! And if in addition to that, Holmes was co-running the Victorian version of The Amelia Project...

COLE

The Brotherhood of the Phoenix...

HAINES

Holmes would easily have known way too much about them, and there would be a risk of exposure. Perhaps this Interviewer guy - Watson - made Sherlock erase himself from history, to ensure the secrecy of the organization?

COLE

He might even have forced Holmes to do it, threatening to expose that he was the Ripper?

HAINES

From the surgeon's story they seem quite chummy though. Holmes might have simply offered to do it out of loyalty.

COLE

Still. All this is hearsay. There's no proof.

HAINES

But there was!

COLE

What?

HAINES

Professor Smythe-Holmes showed me an old telegram. Out of context it didn't really mean much...

COLE

What did it say?

HAINES

I don't remember … verbatim, but something along these lines:

"I concur. STOP. Better publish in my name. STOP. Will keep secret." Signed... A.C.D.

COLE

Huh...! (TAKES IT ALL IN) And yet... despite all these stories - and even proof - we are not one step closer to any useful information about The Amelia Project, are we? Who are they? What do they want? What’s their endgame?

HAINES

Let's crawl back and listen. Maybe we'll find out.

COLE

Maybe...

END OF EPISODE